AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 vs Ryzen 9 9950X3D faceoff — How far does dual cache take you?

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AMD’s new Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 already earned a spot among our best CPUs for gaming, leveraging the company’s 3D V-Cache across both CCDs and topping the Zen 5 lineup. At $900, it’s the most expensive consumer CPU AMD currently offers, and with performance to match, with the chip often coming out on top in our CPU benchmark hierarchy.

Still, that price tag puts it in a unique but difficult position. It is hundreds of dollars more expensive than anything AMD or Intel currently offers, but also not in the same territory as AMD’s Threadripper CPUs. This makes the 9950X3D2 a unique proposition, and even though AMD claims it's a CPU aimed at creative professionals, we must know how fast it is in gaming.

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Hassam Nasir
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Hassam Nasir is a die-hard hardware enthusiast with years of experience as a tech editor and writer, focusing on detailed CPU comparisons and general hardware news. When he’s not working, you’ll find him bending tubes for his ever-evolving custom water-loop gaming rig or benchmarking the latest CPUs and GPUs just for fun.

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  • redgarl
    Phoronix made a REAL review. The x3D2 is made for AI workloads and that's the reason why AMD never released one version of the x3D2 until now.

    In Unix environment, this thing is a monster but only if you can leverage the hardware. On Windows, it is not the case.

    https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-9950x3d2-benchmarks
    https://www.phoronix.com/benchmark/result/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-linux-benchmarks/geometric-mean-of-machine-learning-tests-result-composite-ar99lb.svgz
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  • usertests
    redgarl said:
    Phoronix made a REAL review. The x3D2 is made for AI workloads and that's the reason why AMD never released one version of the x3D2 until now.
    Not only AI workloads, seeing as Phoronix found a smaller increase for the AI/ML category than Fortran, "HPC", and molecular dynamics. But the average can be hiding some of the gains:
    For machine learning workloads on the CPU, the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 was around 10% faster than the 9950X3D but for some of the AI inferencing benchmarks the gains were greater. Those tests included the likes of Microsoft ONNX, OpenVINO, Whisper,cpp, Llama.cpp, and PyTorch.

    The 9950X3D2 is a great CPU for some people, overpriced for others.
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  • Manumarblanc
    The tests you carry out do not cover all the workloads used today, including HPC (high-performance computing), which is predominantly run on Linux; you only show Windows.

    The 9950X3D is actually a very good CPU in every respect, on both Windows and Linux, but for those using Linux and high-performance computing/scientific computing, this 9950X3D2 chip outperforms its predecessor by a huge margin, especially with workloads that utilise the full cache in GROMACS, etc.



    It goes without saying that both CPUs possess something fundamental for high-performance computing/scientific computing, namely AVX-512, which is absolutely essential – something Intel removed from its desktop CPUs some time ago... which is why Intel is lagging behind in this type of processing.
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  • Manumarblanc
    These CPUs offer excellent performance and compatibility with software and games on both Windows and Linux.
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  • Cooe
    "However, as a product, it is a bit lackluster since the gains from the second V-Cache stack are minimal at best, in both gaming and productivity tasks."

    🤦... As a blanket statement the latter part is WOEFULLY INACCURATE!!! There are a ton of productivity/workstation/compute workloads that see HUUUUUUGE performance gains! See Phoronix's review/analysis of the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 for plenty of proof of this. 🤷

    Sure, it doesn't have notable performance gains across board, but to say the "productivity gains are minimal at best" is absolute utter freaking BS... 🤷🙄 It all just depends on the specific workloads you do on your PC.

    Go back to wccftech with this kind of myopic and hyperbolic garbage Hassim... 🤦😑
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  • Cooe
    redgarl said:
    Phoronix made a REAL review. The x3D2 is made for AI workloads and that's the reason why AMD never released one version of the x3D2 until now.

    In Unix environment, this thing is a monster but only if you can leverage the hardware. On Windows, it is not the case.

    https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-9950x3d2-benchmarks
    https://www.phoronix.com/benchmark/result/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-linux-benchmarks/geometric-mean-of-machine-learning-tests-result-composite-ar99lb.svgz
    Hassim sadly brought wccftech's special kind of clickbait stupid with him to Tom's Hardware... 🤦🤷Remember when this site was actually good? Why isn't Paul writing these CPU comparison articles instead of this professional clickbait content reguritator?
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  • WINTERLORD
    Another useless review whats up toms that dual cache theres millions out there that play city skylines 2 cause it wont work in major large 500k population is unplayable cause it uses vcache

    So for the sake of the billions of people that would buy it for city skylines 2 alone

    Update the article get city skylines 2 download a big citie higher than 500k pop and check simulation speed its 1.8 on a 9900x3d
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  • truerock
    I run 4k video. So this article is not relevant to me.
    Reply
  • txfeinbergs
    LOL, a whole bunch of butthurt 9950X3D2 owners in this thread.
    Reply
  • Makaveli
    txfeinbergs said:
    LOL, a whole bunch of butthurt 9950X3D2 owners in this thread.
    you sound like your 12 people are not allowed to have opinions?
    Reply